Sabtu, 13 April 2013

RE: [CanPassRail] PTC was Perceived Risk on Various Modes


Might PTC give advance warning of a vehicle stuck on a level crossing, e.g.
the TTC bus that stalled on the St. Clair and Laurel crossing in 1975?
Whether the train would still have time to stop is another matter, of

Mark Walton

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Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: [CanPassRail] PTC was Perceived Risk on Various Modes

I find it ridiculous with the very small number of passengers killed on
trains spending $13 billion can be justified.

Train accidents involving death of passengers are very few but get front
page coverage and are hot buttons for politicians. The number of commuter
train running each day in major centers is in the thousands with no deaths

PTC will do nothing to prevent people from drivers their cars or trucks into
trains killing passengers and causing disasters which cause more deaths than
train accidents. PTC would not have prevented the derailment in Mississauga
caused by a hot wheel or in Florida caused by a boat hitting a bridge.

I just think $13 billion can be spent better on health care and other areas
that improve the quality of life than on some politicians pet project.

*Walter Pfefferle
Beachville Ont

On 4/13/2013 8:17 AM, Jon Calon wrote:
> The expenditure for PTC is for all trains on the affected lines, which
> are (and correct me if I'm wrong) all lines carrying passengers or
> dangerous goods on freight trains. Given how many placarded cars
> travel around the states, that effectively means all trains will need
> PTC installed.
> The lives saved wouldn't just be the passengers aboard the trains but
> also in the communities which the railways pass through. Still an
> expensive proposition...
> Cheers,
> Jon
> On 2013-04-12, at 10:23 PM, Knut <
> <>> wrote:
> > How realistic is that $13 Billion number/ Sounds like an awful lot
> > considering the amount of passenger service
> operating in the US (and Canada).
> >
> > For Canada, would it not make sense to just install a system like
> that in the Quebec City to Windsor corridor?
> > I assume the cost is related to the distance covered.
> >
> > Knut
> >
> > PS - Of all the modes of travel, By foot, bicycle, motor vehicle,
> bus, train, airplane, boat, I feel the safest going by train.
> >
> > ------------
> > On 2013-04-12, at 11:25 AM, James wrote:
> >>
> >> I found that to be in interesting number, given the push for PTC on
> railroads, which is expected to cost in the order of $13 Billion in
> the US, and perhaps prevent something like three passenger deaths a
> year, on average. (I'm using US statistics, since I haven't seen any
> Canadian ones for comparison.)
> >

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